Mar 2019: Schwab – Another flywheel

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Schwab Inc – Another Flywheel

Mar 2019 ($45)

 

If you liked our work on Ryanair, you’re going to love this. We’ve found another flywheel, a business also founded by a maverick who set out to completely disrupt an industry infamous for its egregious price gouging. What it has evolved into in its 47 years of existence is a consumer champion with an unarguable competitive moat driven by ultra-low costs and a clear runway of future growth. It’s a 47 year old broker, a Fintech (before that was a word), it’s now a bank and, crucially, a highly trusted brand named after its founder – Charles Schwab.

Fig.1: The flywheel: 1) in theory and 2) in practice

Source: Schwab 2017 annual report, Holland Advisors

1. Schwab is a quintessential flywheel business and is, we think, a ‘Franchise’ stock…

  • …enjoying a classic EDLP model
  • based upon a “customer obsessed” service culture
  • that constantly reinvests in its customer offering via lower pricing and enhanced services
  • using technological innovation to lower costs and enhance services
  • Its founder, the eponymous Charles Schwab, is still immersed in the business

2. With a unique hybrid monetisation business model [i.e. Fees + Net interest margin]

  • Asset-light platform business (a ‘fund supermarket’ ala Hargreaves Lansdowne)
  • plus, an FDIC-insured Bank (with cheap and very sticky deposits swept from clients!)

3. With ample growth opportunity:

“The company now handles more than 7 percent of the $45 trillion that people in the U.S. have available to invest. In the next five or so years, I would be disappointed if that weren’t doubled – Bloomberg interview with Charles Schwab, founder, Chairman and 11% shareholder, Oct 2018[1] (emphasis ours)

Given all these attributes we find Schwab shares reasonably priced at 16x December ‘19 earnings. What’s more, it has a cushion to market corrections as such events see client risk aversion and thus rising cash balances which in turn provide better interest income to the company (Q4 2018 being an example).

Schwab is a hard stock to find fault in. This is a founder-run, dream business with a compounding bank bolted on with a demonstrable growth runway.

Thinking differently

Our perspective as generalists, albeit ones with experience in US banks, Amex, PayPal, Hargreaves Lansdown and Ryanair etc., we hope, brings a fresh approach to Schwab. As generalists we actively seek these flywheel businesses across all sectors. The reason being that they are a proven way to secure future growth. Those closer to the sector might underestimate the importance of this flywheel driver having perhaps seen it only rarely before.

We have three angles on this business that we think are under appreciated by Mr Market currently:

  1. A period of exceptional Schwab Bank deposit growth (+30% cagr since 2006) has required significant capital to be retained by the company. As deposit growth now normalises, Schwab’s marginal ROEs will be much higher from here on. Schwab can/will likely still grow (8-10% revenue growth is our best guess) but now will be able to maintain a structurally higher pay-out ratio (c.70% we suggest). This means the group more closely resembles a capital light ‘Dream’ business going forward as opposed to more recently looking like a capital heavy bank model. Dream business (should and do) trade on higher PE’s due to their more powerful per share compounding characteristics. The groups 16x multiple does not reflect this fact.
  2. Looking over a long-time horizon, Schwab’s Dec 2019 PE multiple of 16x should be taken in context. We accept that it has been a beneficiary of the rising interest income it has made on captive deposits as rates rose, but it is far from overearning. Its 2018 Net Interest Margin (NIM), at 229bp, is closer to its trough than its peak.
  3. The growth in Schwab’s client assets and the associated bank deposit base (both, being very sticky) cycle-to-cycle ought to have a meaningful impact on reducing the cyclicality of the business.
In Summary

We have worked hard to condense the many aspects of the Schwab investment case before putting pen to paper. As a result, we conclude that Schwab’s business can actually be assessed reasonably straightforwardly.

We have said in the past that the best businesses articulate their purpose, strategy and culture with the utmost clarity. Next plc in the UK is a great example of this. Next explains its corporate purpose and thinking with such clarity and openness, that the need for subjective external analysis is limited. We think Schwab conducts itself similarly.

We strongly suggest as a starting point, therefore, investors read at least the first 15 pages of the most recent Schwab annual report (2018 out any day now). Few annual reports read with such clarity of purpose as Schwab’s does. An important early conclusion from which is that this is a company that demonstrably puts the customer first in everything it does and all its financial success, past and future, is derived from this point. The analogies with Amazon in this regard are many though Schwab has a track record twice as long. Schwab, like Amazon enjoys a ‘flywheel’ business model.

“the flywheel principle was embedded in Good to Great, it’s a fundamental principle of how great companies get built over time, ones that last…A flywheel is an underlying, compelling logic of momentum. It’s not a list of steps drawn as a circle, called the flywheel.

Rather, there’s an inevitability built in. If you do A, you almost can’t help but do B. And if you do B, you almost can’t help but do C. And if you do C, you almost can’t help but do D and around and around. And it’s driven around because there’s an underlying connection. There’s a logical sequence that builds dynamic momentum, because A drives B drives C drives D and around back to the top of the loop.” – Jim Collins (Good to Great author) who coined the usage of Flywheel as a business phenomenon

We have framed this note around three key facets of Schwab’s business:

  1. Its inherent Franchise qualities as a business
  2. How it monetises its increasing market dominance in a win-win for clients and shareholders
  3. A look at growth and returns of the business
1. Schwab as a near-perfect Holland Franchise business

“scale is the most durable competitive advantage– Bruce Greenwald, Competition Demystified

Schwab is a classic Holland Franchise business. Here’s why:

  1. A 47 year track record as a disruptor of the Financial Services industry with its founder still at the helm.
  2. Strong trusted brand known across all demographics in the US.
  3. Its “client obsession”. Schwab preceded Amazon’s now well-known customer centricity.
  4. A volume driven, lowest cost business model ala Amazon, Ryanair, Costco etc. that has culminated in c.8% market share of investable assets in the US.

Fig.1 shows the deflationary fee trend clearly for which Schwab is a price setter.

  1. Innovation-led: the company embraces technology and has moved up the value chain considerably in its custodian, advisory and banking services.
  2. At its core, the Schwab business is asset light and thus enjoys very high returns. Of the $15.7bn in group common equity, only c.$2.2bn of equity relates to the ‘platform’ business. This has not been obvious of late as group returns have been diluted by the rapid growth in Schwab Bank and the capital that had to be retained in the business to support this growth. As deposit growth rates now normalise, Schwab will structurally generate significant excess capital.
  3. As the business has scaled and shifted to a recurring revenue base, the cyclicality of the business has reduced considerably as trading type revenue have been replaced by service/custody income streams.
  4. The key driver for us in defining Schwab a Franchise is the extent to which it consistently reinvests back into the customer offering – both in price, but also in service. This is reflected in its aim to double market share from here. Our admiration and respect of those in other industries that have executed this flywheel model successfully suggests that this is arguably a realisable target.

We show later what Schwab is in effect, an asset light Dream business (the platform) coupled with a decent return utility-like compounder (Schwab Bank).

The Flywheel

The aforementioned Schwab flywheel goes something like this: ever increasing scale begets 1) lower costs and ability to offer better services 2) which attracts more customers and their assets, 3) more customers attracts more 3rd party funds, 4) more fund choice at lower prices retains customers, 5) customer retention means more scale, 6) sufficient scale affords the means to setup an FDIC bank and invest in technology, 7) new bank services aid retention and offer new monetisation routes to drive scale….and on and on.

Readers will rightly ask why we have not mentioned the company’s Returns (last reported ROE of 20%) as part of our Franchise checklist above. A key component of any Franchise and its future compounding power being a good return on capital. This is where a greater understanding of Schwab’s hybrid business model is important. Schwab’s core business model is an inherently high-margin but asset-light platform (ala Hargreaves Lansdown who incidentally makes a 63% operating margin). However, in Schwab’s case this is diluted by its Bank and the exceptional recent capital needs of that Bank’s deposit growth in recent years. We address this specific point in due course.

The moat – seen through its peer’s eye

Bruce Greenwald’s point on scale made earlier is the absolute key to appraising this business. The client value afforded by Schwab’s scale is incredible as can be seen below:

Schwab platform revenue/Assets c13bp (and falling -4% per year!)
Hargreaves Lansdowne revenue/assets c50bp
AJ Bell revenue/assets c20bp

It is also notable that although Schwab clients have $3.4tn of assets, less than a third of these assets are generating what we might term ‘balance-derived’ revenues[2]. The remaining assets (individual equities etc.) most probably generated small trading revenues for Schwab in the past but in effect are now held in custody for free! Schwab still bears the custodian cost of doing this. This is a superb deal for the client as any UK investor holding capital with a wealth manager will tell you! The c.$2bn of assets which do not generate ‘balance-derived’ recurring revenues have of course the potential to do so in the future of course.

“… one of our key structural advantages is our scale and our operating efficiency. Our cost structure is about half, in some case less than half of a number of our online competitors and less than third that of the warehouse firms.” – Walt Bettinger, Winter update 2018

Fig.2 below shows a cross section of the US investment and the dramatic cost advantage that Schwab has achieved vs. its peers. It does, we note, exclude a couple of other heavyweights Vanguard (a not-for-profit ‘Mutual’ corporation) and Fidelity (also a private business).

Fig.2: Low cost operation vs. the competition

Expenses as a Percentage of Average Client Assets 0.56% Morgan Stanley WM "rnin;s 0.52% BMIk of Arnffica GWIM 0.42% E*TRADE 0.27% TD Ameritrade 0.16%

Source: Schwab report and accounts

So what is the secret sauce? Putting the client first. It sounds easy, and is something 90% of companies these days pay lip service to, but, few companies really consistently operate with this mindset. Fig.3 shows the company’s principles which, in studying its past, we are prepared to state they have broadly executed upon.

Fig.3: Through Clients’ Eyes

Through Clients' Eyes Principles that will guide our actions for growth 1. Trust is everything. Earned over time. Lost in an instant. We will focus on anything we do or don't do that builds or undermines trust and our relationship with clients. 2. Price matters. More than ever. And in our industry more than most. We will leverage our scale to deliver industry-leading pricing without prospects or clients having to ask or negotiate. 3. Clients deserve efficient experiences. Every time. We will respect our clients' time by ensuring that every interaction a client has with us is simple and easy. 4. Every prospective or existing client is critical to our future growth. No matter how large or small. We will value and delight them at each possible opportunity. 5. Actions matter more than words. Clients, press, influencers, and employees will give credit to what we do vs. what we say. We will challenge everything we do to ensure it is consistent with what we believe and say about ourselves.  Source: Schwab 2017 AR

In our experience, companies that have followed these types of approaches for long periods have outputs (volume growth, market share gains) that can either prove or disprove such lofty statements. That is why a long publicly quoted and visible track record of financial and operating metrics is so key. Not just to judge say accounting quality or the like but more importantly whether the business model has actually delivered the outputs that would logically result from past re-investment activities. The data we have studied for Schwab and the quote below support such a view.

It really continues to show up in one of our simplest, most direct metrics. If you look at our TOA, or transfer of assets or accounts, we continue to win more than $2 from competitors for every dollar they win from us. That’s a metric that we’ve not seen documented, at least in any kind of publicly reviewed forum, achieved by any competitor.– Walt Bettinger, Winter update 2018

Fig.4: what Schwab looks like “Through shareholders’ eyes”!

 Source: Schwab

Those data points are, to us, reminiscent of our work on JD Weatherspoon (an analogy we doubt few Schwab observers have made before!). As the company is achieving ever-greater scale and efficiency it is passing much (or all) of it on to customers in the form of a lower price offering. In doing so it is further building the moat around its existing business while creating more long-term value versus its competitors to drive yet more growth.

2. Monetising its customer base in a win-win fashion

“I’d like to think that we’re a blend of Amazon and Nordstrom. You can get extraordinary value. You can get tremendous technology. You can have a breadth of choices. But you also have that person there to help you.– Walt Bettinger, CEO

Monetisation opportunities increase significantly with scale because it requires an ever smaller marginal profit per customer/client. Take Ryanair. The company now has over 120m annual passengers. In the context of say €1,000m annual net profit run-rate, its ability to generate even just €4 of profit in ancillary revenue per passenger (hotel bookings, car rental, in-flight vodka – whatever) can very meaningfully move the profit dial. This is the beauty of lowest-cost, volume-led businesses when they realise a critical mass.

Schwab started life in the early 1970s as a discount broker, making its money largely on flat-rate trade commissions. For example, twenty three years ago when one of your authors was a client of Schwab, the company was generating c.50% of its then $2.3bn group revenues from trading commission. Today, trading commissions are just 10% of a much larger c.$10bn revenue base. A clear indication of the extent to which the overall business has evolved and how it now monetises its customer base in a better, more sustainable manner.

Trading prices are today very low and maybe will soon be zero. We are fine with that. Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary said he expects air fares might trend towards zero also (with the profits being generated via alternative revenue streams). Buffett once observed that a great business needs to be a win-win situation for the entire eco-system. In many of the most successful modern day business customers receive wonderful value for money and the monetisation of the company customer relationship is almost invisible to them.

Fig.5: Various EDLP companies and how they make their money

 Source: Holland Advisors

Again, the low cost winners which we seek are the ones benefitting-from and, importantly, actually driving these deflationary trends. When you have massive scale, you only need a small profit per client (or indeed per passenger) for the aggregate profit to be meaningful. This is not a new concept by any means…which brings us neatly to Schwab Bank.

Schwab Bank

Whilst Schwab continues to offer market leading prices and services in its asset management, custody and advisory services, an in-house Bank lets it also offer (FDIC-insured) banking services. Schwab sweeps unused cash balances from client accounts into the bank which are very low cost and sticky deposits. The margin it can then make of these deposits are it’s to keep (a type of float).

Fig.6: Context on how Schwab makes money in 2018

 Source: Holland Advisors

Crucially for Schwab bank (and Schwab shareholders), we believe that cash held in an investment account is not ‘managed’ by its owner with the same mindset as cash in a regular bank deposit or savings account given that the customer has parked this cash to invest at a later date. That is, it is much ‘stickier’ than a normal bank deposit balance.

Schwab currently makes a spread of c.230bp (vs. a peak of c420bp in 2006) on these tactical cash balances that fluctuate in customer accounts. By comparison, Schwab makes c.20bp on managed assets and c.50bp on advised assets. The Bank arm is thus a superbly complimentary business for customers and shareholders alike and is now a key element of the Schwab flywheel. The scale of this opportunity that was afforded to Schwab due to the size of the business it had built shows why the company chose to do something that is quite unusual in business model studies. They took an asset light business that made great returns (and did not need significant capital to be retained on its balance sheet) and they made it asset heavy!

Fig.7: Schwab’s Net Interest Margin (spread)

 Source: Schwab 10k filings

Some smaller discount brokers tout ‘cash management’ offers but the reality can be far less impressive[3]. Crucially, Schwab’s scale is a major advantage here: this is an FDIC-insured bank which comes with onerous Federal oversight, transparency and more capital than smaller competitors are capable of providing. An important point for investors is the fact that Schwab Bank is in a key competitive position but one that was built from scratch as a function of the scale of its core business (which in turn was also built from scratch!). Whilst unorthodox it is a powerful example the strength that well-built scale can result in.

“there are no monthly account service fees and no minimum balance requirements for the Schwab One account when it is linked to your Schwab Bank Invest First card.” Schwab website

Returning to the decision by Schwab to develop the bank. The accounts of the company show clearly the scale of capital that has been needed to have a suitable capital base to support it. This was not a trivial commitment either in terms of time or scale. We showed earlier that the deposit base of the bank has grown at a cagr of c.30% pa since 2006 as shown here in Fig.8a.

Fig.8a: Schwab Bank deposits

 Source: Schwab 10k filings

Additionally we note that the capital retained to build the bank division’s required capital base equated to 80% of total profits in the last five years. The future capital retention requirements of the Bank however, as we will demonstrate shortly, are far lower. It should be noted that perhaps without the presence of an owner/founder/manager who returned to this business in 2004, such a scale and long term commitment to develop the banking arm might not have been undertaken.

3. Thinking about Capital, Returns and Growth

We see Schwab as an inherently high return business. But this is not immediately apparent from recent years’ ROE.15-20% at the group level. That said, group ROE has jumped to c.20% in recent quarters. When we think about Schwab’s capital intensity and return on capital, we need to think about it as two distinct businesses: 1) an asset light platform business making ultra-high margins with essentially no capital retention needs and 2) a capital compounding Bank with regulatory capital requirements.

Fig.8b below shows the change in retained group earnings post-2009 when the Schwab Bank began to rapidly ramp up its operations. Or more precisely, bank deposits grew dramatically as customers were offered the sweep facility to have their cash assets secured by a FDIC-backed bank. As Schwab began to increase the rate of sweep client cash into the bank, it was obliged by regulators to build its own balance sheet commensurately. The exceptionally rapid growth in deposits therefore soaked up the vast majority of annual profits being generated in the wider business.

Notably, this phase of exceptional deposit growth is coming to an end as the group only has limited client cash left to sweep. This means, we that Schwab will soon return to being far more cash generative corporation.

Fig.8b Schwab tangible common equity

+ Track Z Ann«ate Tangible Common Equity 14.3408 FY 2000 2002 2004 FY 2006 FY 2008 FY 2010 FY 2012 2014 FY 2016 18  Source: Bloomberg, Holland Advisors

Although Schwab does not disclose the operating costs for the bank, the company’s 10k provides some useful insight into quantifying the capital retained by the banking operations. (See the 10K extract that we have put in the Appendix) Fig.9 below shows the history of how this capital by division has moved for the last six years when bank deposits compounded at a whopping 18%. It also then shows our estimate as to what level of capital will be required in the future as bank deposits grow at a likely slower rate (we use 8%). In such a scenario, retained capital (as a % of Net Income) would fall from a range of 70-100% down to c.30-35%. In other words, Schwab’s pay-out ratio could and ought to rise considerably towards c.70% of net income despite still growing assets at a healthy future rate.

Fig.9: Schwab Bank Capital

Source: Schwab 10k, Holland Advisors

Schwab’s cash sweep in recent years has been exceptional and is now tapering off (there is just c.$30bn of cash sweep remaining in H1 2019). Schwab calls this its “new chapter”. As the sweep slows, so too will Schwab’s capital needs. It is for this reason that, perhaps counterintuitively, as growth slows, greater cashflow will be generated. This will also showing up in the ROE rising as future growth will be at higher marginal ROE’s.

“And that sort of takes us to, in some ways, what is a new chapter or at least a chapter we haven’t seen at Schwab for quite a number of years in terms of our ability to reward our owners. Right now, we’re right on the cusp of being in a position to begin returning capital to our stockholders in a quite meaningful way” – Walt Bettinger, Oct 2018 (emphasis ours)

“We think the opportunity exists in the next decade to continue the type of trajectory that you’ve seen 7% market share, our position is strong, our opportunity to continue to take share is there, and we believe we’ll be able to combine that with both again organic growth as well as the return of capital to you during that period – Walt Bettinger, Feb 2019

Founders, Risk and Value

The chart many readers might have expect us to show in the earlier section when we labelled this business a Franchise is below. As we have started elsewhere is this note a more detailed study of the business is required in assessing current and future likely Returns on Equity. However, with just a cursory glance see if you can spot when the founder left the business and when he re-joined. In case you are struggling the Chart of Tangible Book value per share shown earlier makes it easier still.

Fig.10: ROE – Can you spot when the founder left and re-joined?

Source: Bloomberg

Charles Schwab – the man – and his very long term orientation, we like. We also like his desire to take risks with the business yet whilst always remaining completely aligned with us as shareholders.

Cyclicality and real Risk

As we have observed earlier and the chart below shows, Schwab is not the business it once was. Today, a very small % of its sales are generated out of trading commissions. The bulk of income is now derived from either platform revenue (either flat fees or % of AUM) or from Net Interest Income.

Fig.11: Schwab profit pools

 Source: Holland Advisors

As this mix has developed so too has Schwab’s market sensitivity. Whilst a falling market of course can bring lower platform revenues due to lower balances some mitigation now takes place due to the importance of banking cash balances and the sizable profits the group now earns from these.

Studying this company as we have been over the winter of 2018/19 has been informative. This being due to the fact that we saw a significant equity market decline that conveniently (for this exercise) happened during a single quarter (i.e. calendar Q4 2018).

  • The S&P500 index fell 14% QoQin Q4
  • Client assets at Schwab fell 3% QoQ and client revenue from platform fees fell 7%, Trading revenue fell 2%
  • Client cash rose from 10.3% of assets at end Q3 2018 to 12.8% at end of Q4, i.e. a 25% uplift (as per the monthly schedule in the Appendix)
  • Client deposits rose from $208bn to $231bn, but we do not know for certain how much of this related to increased sweep function or was down to customers more cautiously moving to cash
  • The groups Net Interest Income rose 6%
  • …and, finally, PBT was flat QoQ

Fig.12: Q4 was interesting quarter

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“the equity market weakness late in the year cause a lot of our clients to retreat from the markets and to move more heavily into cash” Walt Bettinger, Feb 2019 analyst call

As a result of this exercise and from studying longer-term periods historically when markets have fallen, we will observe a factor about the risks that present themselves to Charles Schwab:

  1. The potential impact to the group’s profitability caused by stock market falls, we think, is less than might be ordinarily expected. This is a notable change from its long-term history and arises mostly as a function of group revenues now being fee-based (on client assets) as opposed to trade orientated. Also, importantly, customers also move to higher cash balances during market falls and these bring much better margins to Schwab.
    1. Simplistically, $1m of client deposits earning a NIM of 250 basis points generates the same income as does $12m of client capital under management/advisory being charged at 20 basis points.
  2. In more prolonged market falls, a second factor comes into play – that being the likely accelerated market share gains on offer as weaker competitors fail. This was arguably a driving force of this business during the post crisis years of 2009-2012.
    1. During 2009 Client assets fell 21% from their 2008 peak to $1.1 trillion. All of these losses were recovered in 2009 and by the end of 2010 client assets were 9% above their starting 2008 level. These number should be considered vs todays client asset level of c.$3trillion.
Interest Rate Cycle risk

The move to drive bank deposits and to benefit from the profits they produce has arguably made the company far more exposed to the interest rate cycle now than the stock market cycle. In that sense there is greater correlation with US domestic consumer banks. Post a recent year rise in US rates it is easy to thus assume, as we think some market commentators do, that the groups recent profitability has been boosted by this interest rate recovery and therefore in some way profits may be inflated.

The table below (and Fig.7 earlier) puts this assumption into context. Whilst clearly the group NIM would suffer in the event interest rates returned to ultra-low levels they would also keep benefiting were a continued normalisation of policy to past averages take place. As we write few investors seemingly believe the latter case to be likely, as such we like the free optionality it brings. Lastly it is worth pointing out that whichever way the interest rate cycle moves, the capital associated with divisional bank deposits would not change. So were interest rates to rise further, this would see higher Net interest income but without a requirement for any further retained capital.

In short, the only macro reason not to own this share is if you are US deflationist, believing rates will revert to being low and staying low for a considerable period. For the record we are not of that view. Aside from that scenario the likely future compounded returns this company ought to generate look very appealing.

Valuation and Conclusion

Earlier in this note we noted the aspirations of Mr Schwab himself:

“The company now handles more than 7 percent of the $45 trillion that people in the U.S. have available to invest. In the next five or so years, Schwab says, “I would be disappointed if that weren’t doubled.” Bloomberg interview with Charles Schwab, founder, Chairman and 11% shareholder, Oct 2018[4]

Separately we observed that were the bank deposits of this company to grow at c.8% per annum this would allow for a 70% pay-out ratio of Net Income to shareholders. In addition to the traits outlined in this piece we have also noted during our study of this company that its nominal growth rates of measures such a client assets are still at high rates despite its now significant size.

Client y/end Assets YoY %

2018 -3%[5]

2017 +10%

2016 +13%

2015 +13%

Against the context of these growth figures, and the group’s powerful flywheel model we outline what we think is a crude, but hopefully insightful model for this company’s future. It can be seen in the Appendix (see Holland Simple 10-year Model).

In it, we have made far more conservative assumptions about market share growth than the founder himself. Far from considering the possibility of doubling market share in five years, we have assumed Schwab’s market share rises from 8% to 12% in ten years. However, we also assume that the underlying market for client custody assets compounds at a c.5% annual rate. These two factors combined produce a rise in assets, revenues and net income of 9.8%pa. Implicit in these outcomes is the fact that the group is assumed to derive no operational gearing from its growing scale despite it having made many highly credible claims to the contrary.

However, our main objective in such basic modelling is to assess the business’ compounding capacity in as simple terms as we can. Thus it seems easy to conclude that Net income could grow at a similar 9.8% rate with only asset growth of 7-8%pa, i.e. implicitly assuming quite modest market share gains.

Additionally, we have also looked at the effect of less capital required to be retained in the business as we have discussed earlier in this piece. The c.8-10% assumed client asset growth is the assumed growth rate for bank deposits as well as custody assets. As such a retained c.30% of group profits builds sufficient incremental bank capital for that to be achieved as we have demonstrated. The remaining 70% of capital is assumed paid out to shareholder in line with management’s current commentary. A further 70/30 split being assumed in favour of buy backs. The final assumption we make relates to the earnings multiple of the shares. This we have left unchanged, but with a Dec 19 PE of 16x in time a re-rating to a higher multiple is a distinct possibility, especially in light of the compounding rates we demonstrate below.

The output of such modelling is interesting and maybe even enticing? These projections suggest per share Schwab shareholders could compound their investment at 14-15% pa for the next 10 years. With all of the traits we have stated in this note and an owner manager primed to try and exceed these goals by some margin, these we think are interesting and attractive results. Upside from faster growth, more operational leverage, higher NIM’s or PE’s would all come for free.

All investors can model the detail of this business with a slightly different lens. Our approach is merely to demonstrate that a combination of continued good revenue growth either due to market and/or share growth if combined with good cash generation (which the management are widely flagging) and sensible allocation could lead to some very appealing shareholder returns.

We are thrilled to find what we think is another ‘snowball on a long-wet hill’.

Buy Schwab

Andrew Hollingworth & Mark Power

The Directors and employees of Holland Advisors may have a beneficial interest in some of the companies mentioned in this report via holdings in a fund that they also act as advisors to.

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  1. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-02/charles-schwab-on-his-3-6-trillion-edge-on-the-fintechs
  2. In 2018, Schwab’s entire Asset Mgmt and Admin Fees (i.e. Platform fees) were derived from just c$886bn of fund assets and its ‘Advice’ revenues were based upon c$227bn of assets. That compares with $3,409bn average assets in total.
  3. Fintech start-up Robinhood is in regulatory trouble recently for advertising a quasi-money market fund as being insured. Regulators have deemed this to be misleading. None of Schwab’s major competitors offer the security of an FDIC-insured bank. Even Vanguard has just shuttered its cash management services (WSJ: March 4th 2019)
  4. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-02/charles-schwab-on-his-3-6-trillion-edge-on-the-fintechs
  5. S&P500 was down -6%. Average Assets actually grew +11% YoY

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This notice describes how we collect, store, transfer and use personal data. It tells you about your privacy rights and how the law protects you. In the context of the law and this notice, ‘personal data’ is information that clearly identifies you as an individual or which could be used to identify you if combined with other information. Acting in any way on personal data is referred to as ‘processing’. This notice applies to personal data collected through our website www.hollandadvisors.co.uk. Except as set out below, we do not share, or sell, or disclose to a third party, any information collected through our website.
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Personal data we process
1. How we obtain personal data The information we process about you includes information:
  • you have directly provided to us
  • that we gather from third party databases and service providers
  • as a result of monitoring how you use our website or our services
2. Types of personal data we collect directly When you use our website, you may provide personal data by submission of data by our Sign Up or Contact Us forms. This can be categorised into the following groups:
  • personal identifiers, such as your first and last names
  • contact information, such as your email address and your telephone number for communication
  • records of communication between us including messages sent through our website, email messages and telephone conversations
  • marketing preferences that tell us what types of marketing you would like to receive
3. Types of personal data we collect from your use of our services By using our website and our services, we process:
  • technical information about the hardware and the software you use to access our website and use our services, including your Internet Protocol (IP) address, your browser type and version and your device’s operating system
  • usage information, including the frequency you use our services, the pages of our website that you visit, whether you receive messages from us and whether you reply to those messages
  • your preferences to receive marketing from us; how you wish to communicate with us; and responses and actions in relation to your use of our services.
4. Our use of aggregated information We may aggregate anonymous information such as statistical or demographic data for any purpose. Anonymous information is that which does not identify you as an individual. Aggregated information may be derived from your personal data but is not considered as such in law because it does not reveal your identity. For example, we may aggregate usage information to assess whether a feature of our website is useful. However, if we combine or connect aggregated information with your personal data so that it can identify you in any way, we treat the combined information as personal data, and it will be used in accordance with this privacy notice. 5. The bases on which we process information about you The law requires us to determine under which of six defined bases we process different categories of your personal data, and to notify you of the basis for each category. If a basis on which we process your personal data is no longer relevant then we shall immediately stop processing your data. If the basis changes then if required by law we shall notify you of the change and of any new basis under which we have determined that we can continue to process your information. 6. Information we process with your consent Through certain actions when there is no contractual relationship between us, such as when you browse our website or ask us to provide you more information about our business, you provide your consent to us to process information that may be personal data. Wherever possible, we aim to obtain your explicit consent to process this information, for example, we ask you to agree to our use of non-essential cookies when you access our website. We continue to process your information on this basis until you withdraw your consent or it can be reasonably assumed that your consent no longer exists. You may withdraw your consent at any time by instructing us  claire@hollandadvisors.co.uk. 7. Information we process for the purposes of legitimate interests We may process information on the basis there is a legitimate interest, either to you or to us, of doing so. Where we process your information on this basis, we do after having given careful consideration to:
  • whether the same objective could be achieved through other means
  • whether processing (or not processing) might cause you harm
  • whether you would expect us to process your data, and whether you would, in the round, consider it reasonable to do so
For example, we may process your data on this basis for the purposes of:
  • improving our services
  • record-keeping for the proper and necessary administration of our business
  • responding to unsolicited communication from you to which we believe you would expect a response
  • preventing fraudulent use of our services
  • exercising our legal rights, including to detect and prevent fraud and to protect our intellectual property
  • insuring against or obtaining professional advice that is required to manage business risk
  • protecting your interests where we believe we have a duty to do so
How and when we process your personal data
8. Your personal data is not shared We do not share or disclose to a third party, any information collected through our website.
Use of information we collect through automated systems
9. Cookies Cookies are small text files that are placed on your computer’s hard drive by your web browser when you visit a website that uses them. They allow information gathered on one web page to be stored until it is needed for use at a later date. They are commonly used to provide you with a personalised experience while you browse a website, for example, allowing your preferences to be remembered. They can also provide core functionality such as security, network management, and accessibility; record how you interact with the website so that the owner can understand how to improve the experience of other visitors. Some cookies may last for a defined period of time, such as one visit (known as a session), one day or until you close your browser. Others last indefinitely until you delete them. Your web browser should allow you to delete any cookie you choose. It should also allow you to prevent or limit their use. Your web browser may support a plug-in or add-on that helps you manage which cookies you wish to allow to operate. The law requires you to give explicit consent for use of any cookies that are not strictly necessary for the operation of a website. 10. Personal identifiers from your browsing activity Requests by your web browser to our servers for web pages and other content on our website are recorded. We record information such as your geographical location, your Internet service provider and your IP address. We also record information about the software you are using to browse our website, such as the type of computer or device and the screen resolution. We use this information in aggregate to assess the popularity of the webpages on our website and how we perform in providing content to you.
Other matters
11. Your rights The law requires us to tell you about your rights and our obligations to you in regard to the processing and control of your personal data. We do this now, by requesting that you read the information provided at  http://www.knowyourprivacyrights.org 12. Communicating with us When you contact us, whether by telephone, through our website or by email, we collect the data you have given to us in order to reply with the information you need. We record your request and our reply in order to increase the efficiency of our business. We may keep personally identifiable information associated with your message, such as your name and email address so as to be able to track our communications with you to provide a high quality service. 13. Complaining If you are not happy with our privacy policy, or if you have any complaint, then you should tell us. When we receive a complaint, we record the information you have given to us on the basis of consent. We use that information to resolve your complaint. 14. Retention period Except as otherwise mentioned in this privacy notice, we keep your personal data only for as long as required by us to provide you with the services you have requested. 15. Compliance with the law Our privacy policy complies with the law in the United Kingdom, specifically with the Data Protection Act 2018 (the ‘Act’) accordingly incorporating the EU General Data Protection Regulation (‘GDPR’) and the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations (‘PECR’). 16. Review of this privacy policy We shall update this privacy notice from time to time as necessary.